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user groups question
Apr 9, 2009
12:27 pm
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I have a question about user groups and I am not sure that I understand them correctlyl

I have a private forum,

guests see nothing, new members are default after signup with limited abilities – after several posts I manually move them to member status with full access, the other group is moderator.

I had several members that started as new members, I then moved them to member status.

When I checked the new member group they were still there and they are also in the member group.

Is this right? It does not seem like it would be.. if I manualy move them to a higher access group they should be gone from old group.

At first I thought it was a screen refresh issue – but no.. I closed browser, flushed everything, logged back in.

Some users are still in both groups?

Apr 9, 2009
1:36 pm

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please detail HOW you "moved" them? did you add the members to the user group via the add button on the usergroups page? or did you move the member from user group X to user group Y with the delete/move button on the user groups page?

members can certainly belong to more than one user group. keep in mind you can assign different user groups to different forums with different permissions so multiple user group members is a must.

Incidentally, using the forum ranks (components) and auto user group assignment, you can make the membership in the new user group automatic upon posting of X number of posts.

Apr 9, 2009
2:05 pm
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I started with 3 groups..

guests.. no access

members… full access

moderator.. mod access

I had about 65 members

I then created a new user group..  = new member… limited access

I moved several recent members with 0 posts from member to this new group and set all new registrations to go to this group for the 1st 2 posts.

Later I checked the group and there were 7-8 established member with over 40 posts each also in the new memember group.. they also showed up in the eoriginal group.

I tried to move them using move/delete function..  some moved some did not.

I just checked the new user group and several established members with over 40 posts are back in the new mew member group.

Should I delete them from the lesser access group since they are also in the higher access group.

Apr 9, 2009
5:20 pm

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thats your call…  it wont hurt them to be in a lesser user group…  when permissions are checked, they get the "OR" of the usergroups they are in…  If any usergroup gets the permission, the user gets the permission…

are you using forum ranks (forum – components – forum ranks) and auto assigning members to user groups based on forum rank?

Apr 10, 2009
7:24 am
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Is it right for users to move into that group (new member)  with out being manually put there?

It happened to my user account – I have an admin and a regulart user account.. I deleted my regular member user name out of the lower access group yesterday.. today it is back?

Apr 10, 2009
7:46 am

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you still need to answer my question from post #4 regarding forum ranks…

which version of spf are you running?  the latest and greatest 4.0.2?

Apr 10, 2009
8:15 am
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Latest version…

I started with no forum rank.. then when I added the new member group with limited access I also added forum rank..

"new member" up to 2 posts (limited rights)

"member" up to 200 posts (full rights)

"sr member" up to 1,000 posts (senior has member rights)

Members with a high number of posts keep showing up in the new member group?

Apr 10, 2009
11:26 am

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you are only telling me part of the equation on forum ranks…  what are the corresponding values for auto user group assignment (dropdown to the right) for the forum ranks?

Apr 10, 2009
11:42 am
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Do you mean

"User Group Membership Attained"?

Apr 10, 2009
12:00 pm
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Assuming that is what you mean – I did mention it but must not have been clear. (I know what I meantWink)

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