SP access control (and the Getting Started section of our Codex might be worth a read) is based upon the relationships between SP User Groups and SP Permission Sets being assigned to each other at Forum level.

The ‘Map Users’ option allows you to set up default User Groups for both Guests (non registered users) and your basic Members. It can also set up more advanced mappings between WordPress Roles 9if you are using them) and SP User Groups.

In most simple forum setups the defaults are often enough although I note your two tier access requirement. This is achieved with forum ranking (from the admin components menu) where you can specify how many posts a user must make before being automatically promoted to a specified user group.

So it sounds like you will need at least 2 User Groups for your members (your ‘rookies’ and ‘promoted’ members) and at least 2 Permission Sets – one for each. And possibly a Guest permissio0n set as well even if only to ensure non-registered users have no access at all.

SP access control (and the Getting Started section of our Codex might be worth a read) is based upon the relationships between SP User Groups and SP Permission Sets being assigned to each other at Forum level.

Thanks. Yes, I’d previously read all of that.

The ‘Map Users’ option allows you to set up default User Groups for both Guests (non registered users) and your basic Members. It can also set up more advanced mappings between WordPress Roles 9if you are using them) and SP User Groups.

I understand the User Mapping Settings (the first part of the page), but what’s throwing me is the second part, Map Users.  In particular, this from the help menu: “Choose whether you want to keep exisiting memberships or completely replace existing memberships.”  Am I correct in thinking that a SP user can have more than one membership (I assume a membership means belonging to a user group), and that one option will simply add a membership to a SP user, and the other option will replace any and all memberships the user already has with the membership set up for that user role in the above Mapping Settings?

In most simple forum setups the defaults are often enough although I note your two tier access requirement. This is achieved with forum ranking (from the admin components menu) where you can specify how many posts a user must make before being automatically promoted to a specified user group.

So it sounds like you will need at least 2 User Groups for your members (your ‘rookies’ and ‘promoted’ members) and at least 2 Permission Sets – one for each. And possibly a Guest permissio0n set as well even if only to ensure non-registered users have no access at all.

Got it. Clear.  One further question though.  Where do I tell SP what the initial user group is that a new registrant is to  belong to? Just can’t find that.

THANKS for the prompt reply. Your software looks solid. No issues at all thus far. Can I ask which editor it is that you are using, I’d like to use this in my forum.

yes, a user can have multiple memberships in usergroups… the user will get the best of the permissions if both applied on same forum… so if a user has membership in A and you add membership B, he will have membership in A and b…  and the best permissions will apply if both used…

but we also have the option to limit membership to a single usergroup…  so if the user has membership A and then you add membership B, he would lose membership in A…  This is most often used in membership sites where you purchase some kind of membership.

you set up the initial membership for new registrants on the same map users to usergroups panel…  look for the one that says default membership for new members…

we are using the tinymce richtext editor here…  with the cirkuit skin…

Thank you very much.  You’ve answered all my questions, and I have to say a big DUH on the default user group — right under my nose.

I’m impressed with your support. I’m try not to bug you for a while.

no worries! been there and done that!

glad we could help. holler if you have any more questions.

no worries! been there and done that!

glad we could help. holler if you have any more questions.

Well, I’m back. Sorry.

I set the default user group for new registrants to a user group I created named “New Member” but (and I tried this twice) new registrations become Member, not New Member.  I’ve attached screencaps of user group “New Member” set at the default, my Forum Ranks, and the profile of the user to show he’s a Member and only has one post.

What did I do wrong?

sounds like you are confusing usergroups and forum ranks… two different things… you set the usergroup a new member gets on forum – usergroups – map users to usergroups…

then you can also use forum ranks to control a user’s usergroup membership… keep in mind the what that number of posts column is… you get that forum rank until the # of posts is achieved… then you advance to the next forum rank… you might be interpreting that wrong… and did you assign a user to a new usergroup when he attains that rank? sorry cant see the image since replying via email…

Take a look at the iamges when you get a chance. You’ll see that the default user group is user group New Member, but new registrants are going into user group Member. Thanks.

what images???  none in your post here either… did you upload using the attachments button…

but to reiterate the point I was making, see image…

 users will stay in rank Rookie until they get 5 posts… then they move to someone rank… note the post column header, ‘up to’…   and in this case, you will not get a membership in the first rank… dont use the first rank to control membership, use the default usergroup for members on the map users to usergroup panel…

Sorry, I didn’t realize I had only queued the files and needed to Upload them.  Here they are.

as I said, in the forum ranks, for the rank of Newbie, turn off the auto assignment to Members…  you are forcing them there…  any members will have a rank of Newbie until they have 3 posts then they get rank of member.

Okay, I set the forum ranks as you said now. See attachment.  But new members are still not going into the “New Member” user group.  They are getting the rank of Newbie, so the forum ranks is working.  What’s not working is the placement of new members into the “New Member” user group after registration, they go directly into “Member”.  You can see the members are not going into the proper user group by looking at the other attachment.  And you can see from that attachment that it is in fact set as the default user group for new members.

Is there some other setting I need to do to make the new member user group assignment work properly? I’m sure it’s something dumb on my part.

but  you still havent posted an image of your forum – usergroups – map users to usergroups settings…  what is the default usergroup for new members in there?