1. By ‘menu’ do you literally mean the dark grey bar with the search field to the right of it? You mean it disappears from there? If so then it sounds like it might not be using standard WordPress functions to display the menu. You will note that the page title is not displayed above but the page DOES appear in the menu. I would need to know how the menu is being created to come close to working out why it vanishes.
2. Yes indeed – forum admin > components > seo – you can set the page title structure there…

yes. the bar with the search. The “Consulting Zone” menu item, that is actually the forum, disappears from my site menu if I disable the title of the page. I’d like to remove page title, and to keep the site menu working.

On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Simple:Press Support wrote:

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As I said we will need to know how that menu is being generated. Removing the text from the page title should have no effect on the menu if being generated using standard WordPess core menu functions. It just suggests that your theme is perhaps using something different

I’m using uber mega menu from code canyon. When the menu item for simple press disappeared on the simple press page only, I opened a ticket in the uber menu support. They have looked into that and replied with the following:

“The issue doesn’t stem from the menu, and isn’t related to UberMenu at all, so unfortunately I don’t have any insight into the specific code that causes this issue. The code that is removing the title could be in any of your plugins or your theme.

Working logically, this is occurring on a forum page – and that is the most obvious difference from the other pages. So it is likely related to the forum plugin you are using. I hunted down the plugin and downloaded the Simple Press forum plugin, and then did a global search for the_title. I found a title filter in sp-load-forum.php line 93, which calls the function sp_setup_page_title in sp-forum-support-functions.php on line 594. It looks to me like the function returns an empty title when a setting to display the page title is disabled in the forum settings.

If I had to bet, I’d put my money on that setting being the issue (though it’s certainly possible there is another filter elsewhere doing something similar). That filter is too generic and shouldn’t be stripping the title out of menu items, but it is. From the look of the code, there’s probably a setting you can enable/disable in the forum settings to display the title.”

Indeed, my page title was disabled. when I enabled, I got a title I don’t want or need, but, my menu got back to live.

Is there a way to keep the menu working, and still have the title forum title disabled ?

Thanks, Ronen.

On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:00 AM, Simple:Press Support wrote:

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no need to address their misunderstanding – wont help…

but why are you disabling the page title? to remove it from the actual page display above the forum?  If so, just remove the page title from the wp theme page template…  if you are using the default page template for the forum, then just create a custom page template for the forum page and remove it from that template…

if removed, for another reason, please explain…

I have a page title of my own, and it’s part of the branding/look an feel of the site.

You can see: here (The upper part – has a banner with title).

This is why I don’t need another title.

Moving the page title from WP didn’t help, and actually, for the sake of maintenance, I’d rather keep the name of the pages.

Current situation – I don’t need the page title, but as soon as I disable it, the forum “consulting zone” menu disappears.

Best Regards,

Ronen.

sorry, what am I looking at there that you dont like???  the pink strip?

The Pink stripe is mine. That’s my title.I like it.

What I don’t want to have is what’s in the forum’s pink square below – the first text you see:

“Consulting Zone | AppGo2Market | Consulting Zone”

When I use the settings and remove the title, this text disappears (and so does the forum menu).

I’d like to remove it, and keep my menu working.

Thanks,

Ronen.

Please let me know, if you need me use the “remove title” option, and keep the site for some time for you to see.

You would be able to see that the “Consulting Zone | AppGo2Market | Consulting Zone” is gone, but so does the “Consulting Zone” from the top menu, leaving a blank link.

…I want the menu to remain in place, regardless of dropping the “Consulting Zone | AppGo2Market | Consulting Zone”.

Thanks,

Ronen.

That was my earlier point… SP is not outputting that… its coming from the theme…  and is the page title…  output from the wp theme… 

check the page template you are using for the forum page (it appears different than other pages on  your site)…  do you see a call to the_title() in that page template?  its more than likely what is outputting it…

There must be a connection to simple press as it happens ONLY with the simple press page and ONLY when using the admin option (display options) – remove title.

I double checked with a template that works well, assigned it to the simple press page. Same problem.

not denying a connection… just that we do not output a title like that…  so at a bit of a loss as to what is going on…

Andy, any thoughts?

Actually just re-reading this through the thread is just going round in circles with Ronen repeating himself and not really, I believe, listening to what we are saying – and Steve (Mr Papa) I suspect missing the point a bit.

So let’s recap.

Simple:Press hides the page title via an option. This causes no problem for 99.9% of users – it is commonly done – but clearly the plugin being used here for menu creation goes it’s own route instead of following WP routines and this fails to work as expected. For which, apparently, we get the blame.

So – I think there are three options open – unless you want to edit the actual SP code although I do not think that would make any difference if the menu plugin is expecting something we do not support. Or use the WP menu routines of course.

Option 1:
Put up wth the page title in this instance.

Option 2:
Follow Steve’s suggestion – which is a good one by the way – and create a simple WP page template for just the forum to use and remove the WordPress call to the_title(). If this were done in a child theme then it is good from a maintenance point of view as well. Once done should remain safe.

Option 3:
For a quick, simple but ‘dirty’ way of solving the problem add a ‘display none’ to the Simple:Press theme CSS file. As in:

h1 .headline { display: none; }

which removes the page title. Of course this then means that you need to preserve this change through future SP updates so creating a custom theme for this would be sensible – but that is only a few minutes worth of work.

So – As you do not want 1 and do not seem to like 2 how about giving 3 a try?

Option 3 may be risky with google thinking I have something to hide.

I prefer option 2.

I am not sure I know how to do that, I’ll try and let you know.

Thanks, R.

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On Jan 26, 2014, at 12:14 PM, “Simple:Press Support” wrote:

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