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Having subscribers be in two different groups at the same time and other questions 🙂

FM Free Realms Mayhem
Free Realms Mayhem
Member

I am new to Simple Press and am very much a newb at building a forum.  I do have a wonderful young man building the site for me and he is the one who is doing the coding and the actual building of the site but I am doing what I can to learn how to work everything.

I have a few questions.

1. How would I be able to assign subscribers to two different groups?  I would like to know how to see these subscribers with certain titles, if that is the correct name, or badges?

The Groups that I have set up are:  Guests, Members, Moderators, Guild Members and Admins

We would like some of our Moderators to show as Guild Members

We would like some of our Members to be Guild Members

I as an admin would also like to be seen as a Guild Member

I am still learning how to title and badge the groups so any help would be appreciated.

 

The next question I have is about the editing or reply box.  I like the way your Reply box looks here on this site.  How would I change ours to the way your looks?  I would probably like the way our looks better if I could make it larger.  I can barely see the little editing icons or text as I am typing.

Also, in regard to this topic.  I don’t see a way to change the size of the text in my post.  I know it must be there, but I am not seeing it.  surprised

Also, I am not seeing the LOCK tool in the little editing tool box.  How am I able to ‘lock’ a topic?

Last question on this topic, what is the kitchen sink? laugh

Thank you so much for your help.

 

 

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YS Yellow Swordfish
Yellow Swordfish
Member

I suspect you are getting confused between user groups and forum ranks. User Groups are first and foremost for the control of access to the forums – determining who can do and see what. For an explanation of those I would suggest a visit to our codex and a read through of the brief ‘Getting Started’ section.

Whereas it sounds like ‘Guild members’ is more of a Special Rank where individuals – regardless of their user group membership – can be placed to all share a common name, badge and ‘status’. But I would get the User Groups sorted first.

As to the editor I have no idea, of course, what it looks like on your site so not sure I can advise on that one. This site uses our TinyMCE editor plugin if that is any help…

Text in the post..? Do you mean during editing or when displayed as these are controlled by different CSS rules?

The ‘Lock Topic’ tool IS in the tools popup but remember it is in the topic level tools (forum view – list of topics) NOT the post level toolbox (topic view).

‘Kitchen Sink’ is what WordPress calls the second row of toolbar buttons – i.e., extra features in the editor. Our TinyMCE plugin uses the same version as is used to write your blog posts hence the same names and tooltips. I don’t think much of the name – rather childish I think – but we have to live with it!

FM Free Realms Mayhem
Free Realms Mayhem
Member

Well, gosh!  You have been so helpful Yellow Swordfish!  Thank you!

You were exactly correct that I was confusing the groups and ranks.  I didn’t need to add a Guild Member Group.  I just need to be able to rank them.

As far as the editor goes, it sounds like that is a job for my wonderful web builder fellow. 

Thank you so much for taking the time to help with these questions.  You rock!! laugh

FM Free Realms Mayhem
Free Realms Mayhem
Member

Well, I thought I had figured this out but now I am stuck again.

I was able to figure out how to have the Rank for Guild Members and Moderators but I am not able to figure out how to have the ranks for Moderator and Member and Guild Member and Member.

I have a photo that I hope will help.  In the picture, Kaleb is shown as a Moderator but since he is not a Guild Member, he should also show the member rank badge.   Jason, the person above Kaleb is only a Member.  He is not a Mod or a Guild Member. 

I checked the Member List for the Member Group and Kaleb is listed there as a Member.

Thank you for your help. 

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FM Free Realms Mayhem
Free Realms Mayhem
Member

I also have found that Kameryn, who is listed below Kaleb in the picture, should have a Guild Member Rank as well as a Member Rank.  Why are some of these not showing but some are?

I double checked and Kameryn does show as a Guild Member and Kaleb shows as a Member as well as a Moderator.  I have tried and tried to figure out why so many of these are not working correctly.

I have some who are showing as Guild members but not members and some that show as Guild Member but not both and also, like Kaleb, showing up as Member but not Moderator? 

Any ideas?  Thanks for the help.

MP Mr Papa
Mr Papa
Member

you have confused me…  sorry…

are you trying to display ranks, special ranks or usergroup badges?

ranks are based on number of posts… special ranks are based on simple assignment to the special rank… and usergroups are based on assignment to a usergroup… 

you can also give any of the three a badge…  just edit the rank, special rank or usergroup and pick the badge you want to use…

if a use has a rank and special rank, are you display one or both?  what about titles and badges?

for more info, see:

http://codex.simple-press.com/codex/api/template-functions-and-the-api/display-template-functions/topic-view/sp_postindexuserrank/

http://codex.simple-press.com/codex/api/template-functions-and-the-api/display-template-functions/topic-view/sp_postindexuserspecialrank/

http://codex.simple-press.com/codex/api/template-functions-and-the-api/display-template-functions/topic-view/sp_postindexusermemberships/

FM Free Realms Mayhem
Free Realms Mayhem
Member

The Member Rank Badge, the badge with the gold stars is for just regular members.

I included a screen shot of Kaleb listed under Users and it shows he is a Member there, as well as a Moderator.

 
Kaleb should be showing a Member Rank Badge but he is not.  Any ideas?

 

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MP Mr Papa
Mr Papa
Member

not sure what that image is showing me…  its in the admin…  badges wont be shown there…

and confused by what you are expecting… a member has special rank and forum rank?  and just showing the special rank?  did you see the first link I posted?  by default the forum rank is hidden if you have a special rank… but the hideIfSpecialRank argument allows you to change that behaviour…

FM Free Realms Mayhem
Free Realms Mayhem
Member

LOL  Well…  those links look like Greek to me.   I think I just needed someone to say…  You can’t have two badges unless you code it to say so.  LOL

Sorry that I am not very good at the coding lingo.  I am trying to do some of the things on the site to learn how it works and I get lost when coding speak is spoken. 

I do understand now.  Thank you for helping me.  I will give this info to the guy who is doing the coding part.

MP Mr Papa
Mr Papa
Member

no, having multiple badges is quite possible… just the default is if you have a special rank, dont show the forum rank…

problem is I just dont fully understand what you are doing… and glad to help you get there…

so first, do you understand the difference between forum ranks and special ranks?  forum ranks are solely based on post count… in your image in post #8 that would be the far right column with newbie and moderator…  the second from right column with members and moderators are not ranks at all, but usergroups… usergroups are groupings of users you create for assigning permissions on forum…  special ranks are just a name/rank you can assign to folks without any criteria… all three can have badges…

please explain what you want to do and we can help… I get the impression you really want to doing usergroup badges…  so anyone in the usergroup members would get the same badge… anyone in the moderators usergroup would have the same badge… etc…

I know you tried to explain earlier, but if you run through it one more time and try to say whether you are thinking forum rank, special rank or usergroup, it might help…

FM Free Realms Mayhem
Free Realms Mayhem
Member

Well, I do think that is the answer. We just need to fix the code so that it tells the profile to show the member rank badge as well as the moderator and guild member badges.  I do think that is the problem.  Thanks for your help and your patience. smile

 

MP Mr Papa
Mr Papa
Member

back in post 7, I gave you the link for the template function to use for usergroup badges… by default, those are not in our supplied sp themes…  we show the forum ranks and special ranks instead of usergroup memberships/badges… so you may want to add that and decide if you also need forum ranks and special ranks…

you will find them in the spTopicView.php template file in your sp theme… just add the third one where the ranks ones are…

also, be sure you have your own sp theme instead of editing ours to keep from losing your changes on theme updates… see:  http://codex.simple-press.com/codex/themes/theme-basics/creating-a-theme/

glad to help!