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Possible upload bug?

MA markwaterous
markwaterous
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Let me cram a whole bunch into this one post… first of all, loving the latest version. It looks SO much cleaner than before, it feels snappy, and you almost gave me a heart attack when I looked under the surface and finally see some CSS classes and ids being applied to the various elements. The first time I ever tried Simple:Press way way back in the day I admittedly dropped it fairly quick because I couldn’t isolate elements. I was stuck with trying to do CSS backflips which can only go so far. Much kudos for adding that.

On to the actual topic. I have a love/problem-with-post-edit-buttonate relationship with TinyMCE. Actually, I just hate it. I notice that in 5.0 you can still upload and attach images to a post even without it, which is another huge plus for me (if you can do this in 4.4.5, please point me to the setting so I can enable it!).

It doesn’t seem to work though, at least not on the first run in Chrome 14.0.797.0 (Have yet to test in FF, Safari or my glue eating friend IExploder). Select a file, click upload, and… nothing. The stop upload button appears, and ‘works’ (it doesn’t hang, but there’s really nothing to stop).

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YS Yellow Swordfish
Yellow Swordfish
Member

Oh this is bad news. The uploader plugin is quite a recent inclusion. I would be grateful if you could try with a non-webkit browser such as Firefox.
I need to get Steve to discuss this one but sadly he is working away this week and wont be back until Friday. But I will email him to see if he can suggest what questions I should be asking you!

YS Yellow Swordfish
Yellow Swordfish
Member

I have talked to Steve.

first up I must say that I have no problem uploading with Chrome.

he asked me to ask you to look at what runtime the uploader is selecting. You can discover this by hovering the mouse over the graphic in the top left – this will reveal the runtime in a tooltip.

he also asked if you could run this with the Chrome console open to see if any javascript problems are reported.

CF Conrad_Farlow
Conrad_Farlow
Member

It works fine in Chrome 13.0.782.107 for me as well. The runtime is reported as silverlight. I’ll update Chrome and try again.

CF Conrad_Farlow
Conrad_Farlow
Member

13.0.782.112 appears to be the latest version and it works fine. How do I get version 14.x?

YS Yellow Swordfish
Yellow Swordfish
Member

Thanks for the test.
We have it Ok on Chrome on both Mac and PC by the way.

MA markwaterous
markwaterous
Member

HTML5 runtime in both FireFox 5.0 and Chrome 14 (Windows 7 64bit). Works fine in FireFox, but still no go in Chrome. No errors reported in console either, it just doesn’t go anywhere after making all the ui updates (icon is grayed out, the upload bar appears, etc). If there is any other information I can provide or tests I can do, just let me know.

 

Chrome 14 is from the developer channels;

http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?extra=devchannel’platform=win

http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?extra=devchannel’platform=mac

(available for Linux too if anyone wants the dev channels for those)

CF Conrad_Farlow
Conrad_Farlow
Member

Thanks Mark I have downloaded version 14.0.835.29 dev-m and I have no problems with the uploader as the image shows.

 

MA markwaterous
markwaterous
Member

Is that with the HTML5 runtime or the Silverlight that was working from the release channel? I have silverlight disabled in Chrome, so it’s pure HTML5 (non-working) runtime for me.

YS Yellow Swordfish
Yellow Swordfish
Member

Thanks for the information. I will pass this on to Steve. is there any chance you could try on Chrome with Silverlight turned on? Just for a quick test?

MA markwaterous
markwaterous
Member

Yep it definitely works in Chrome 14 with silverlight. Oh wait, I just got an exception when I went to move the tab… (in the runtime, not from Chrome). As odd as this in the middle of a post, I have to run out and get some dog food. 🙂 When I get back, I’ll try it again and see if the exception returns.

MA markwaterous
markwaterous
Member

I ran two more uploads on it, and I didn’t see the exception again. However they did both seem to stall around 70-80%, wait for a few moments and then suddenly hit 100% and insert into the post. That could be local lag, but I figured I would note it for clarity.

I did notice two other things at the same time. First, is there going to be a way to remove attachments once they are uploaded? I noticed other than removing it from the post itself, there was no X in the upload area once a file finished (what if I clicked the wrong file and it uploaded before I could stop it?). I also noticed when I chose to edit the post, even with admin permissions, I could not remove the attachments (what if I have a member upload an image to a family forum that just crosses the border, but their post doesn’t? I’d want to keep the latter but remove the former).

If I’m harassing you about features already in the works, feel free to ignore me. 🙂

The second issue I noticed is just a slight formatting pita. This test is running under a default install of WP3.2.1 with TwentyEleven: http://imm.io/7VYP – it appears the 10px padding set on #spMainContainer .spEditor #spQuickTags is the culprit, causing the textarea and icons to be pushed over and out of the main container on a thin layout such as this.

MP Mr Papa
Mr Papa
Member

confused… whats the issue here (not the formatting)?

MA markwaterous
markwaterous
Member

My apologies, I write like I think and that can be extremely hazardous to any third party who dares read it. Boiled down;

  1. The upload functionality in Chrome 14 with the HTML5 runtime is still failing for me. Silverlight works, despite being a touch quirky at first.
  2. There is currently no immediately apparent method to edit attachments once they have been uploaded. Neither by the owner of the post or by an admin/moderator. This strikes me as having the potential to be a huge issue in more than one scenario!
  3. There’s a slight formatting issue with the post form, where the padding on the aforementioned element pushes it out of alignment with everything else. Thought you might like to see it in action is all!

Item 1 is the one truly important to this conversation, items 2 and 3 are just observations made while attempting to localize the issue.

MP Mr Papa
Mr Papa
Member

1 – chrome 14?  is this pc or mac?  is it released?  on pc, I dont seem to have it available yet as full release…

2 – its a file uploader, not a file manager…  so yes, we dont plan to offer more options like that within the plugin…  we can certainly imagine some users wanting a full fledge file manager and are hopeful someone will contribute such a plugin. The 4.x version had a file manager but it was mostly universally criticized as way to complex for the general masses.  additionally, it was the source of multiple security holes, so we have not carried it over to 5.0 realizing a very small subset wont like that.

3 – I cannot duplicate the alignment… and as you say probably likely to the very narrow width…  I havent checked the effects of removing the padding globally but suspect it will be a negative for the masses…  very narrow themes are likely to need their own theme anyways for the group and forum views…