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EK Edward Koon
Edward Koon
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Mr Papa said
lol, you must be one of the few I know having good luck with cloudfare…  😉  fine for totally static content… but….

LOL.. Yea it’s great! EBMS get sql injection attempts daily but CloudFlare web firewall stops em in their tracks. That site is on a $20 pro act that offers the firewall. But my other is on a free account, it don’t get hacked daily. eek I also run full https / tls encryption free on CloudFlare..

For what your client is doing CloudFlare should enhance his page loads greatly. Just the CDN part is worth it’s weight in gold. As for those runs to the database he talks about, they will be cached by CloudFlare reducing server load. CF hides the server location greatly reducing the chances of a root attack on the server.

Their free account would probably work just fine. Even the free account allows country blocking plus blocking ip ranges too. They have many distribution points in many countries. The site visitor will be served by the closest cdn node.

I run the full rocket loader script that combines all javascript and css as one. That’s a mega speed booster right there. Downside is its best to temporarily disable it if i’m working in sp admin.

As i always say – just my two cents worth cool  

MP Mr Papa
Mr Papa
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what simple press theme are you using?  I think only reboot uses googleapis for fonts for us… which you can of course change…

EK Edward Koon
Edward Koon
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After thinking about this a while, his title problem is probably coming from the forum page itself.

There should not be any meta title or description. If the page name is Forum, Yoast adds Forum on the seo title line. Leave it at that.

My SEO component settings are.

sp-seo.jpg
AC Adam Crase
Adam Crase
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Thank you. Unfortunately my problem still persists.

I have followed the above SEO components settings, given by FidoSysop, and the following are the other settings in various places around the site:

WP Settings
Permalinks
–> Common Settings –> Post name
–> Optional –> no optional settings

WP Page –> Forums
Yoast SEO section
–> Focus keyword –> Forum
–> SEO title –> None
–> Meta description –> Dongguan HubHao Forums and topics

SimplePress
Simple:Press Version 5.5.8
Theme – Default, with Minimalist overlay

Yoast SEO
General –>
Force rewrite titles –> not selected

Post Types –>
Posts
–> Title template: %%title%% %%page%% %%sep%% %%sitename%%
–> Meta description tempalate: blank
Pages
–> Title template: %%title%% %%page%% %%sep%% %%sitename%%
–> Meta description tempalate: blank

And so on, exactly the same for all available Types… nothing specifically available for the forum; I am guessing this is covered under Posts.

I must be missing something.

EK Edward Koon
Edward Koon
Member

No meta description on the forum page. Let that flow through from simplepress. 

sp-forum-page.jpg
AC Adam Crase
Adam Crase
Member

Ok, will do.

I forgot to mention, we are not having SP load problems… I was referring to all the other plugins. Truthfully, it’s not all of them, just most.

This is what I can see in Admin when a page is loading, but once loaded it also goes to http://:

Title-display-in-Admin-during-page-loading.JPG

 

Where would it be calling ‘WordPress’ from?

EK Edward Koon
Edward Koon
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It appears that open graph is conflicting with your simplepress meta title and descriptions. Not sure where the open graph is coming from but it should match the meta description. 

Viewing your sites terms of sale forum post i see your og description is pointing to the switch lang link.

hunhao-topic-og.jpg

Further down simple press meta description is visible and correct.

hubhao-topic-meta.jpg

I’m thinking your theme may be adding the open graph which is conflicting with simplepress meta tags. 

Steve (Mr Papa) has added open graph support to the next release that should cure this. 

Feel free to browse my sites source code to see how i have sp working good. On the topic page i only feed the post meta title and description to search bots. It has worked well even social sharing my Trump collection. 

Best Wishes.

YS Yellow Swordfish
Yellow Swordfish
Member

Thanks for all the helpful input FidoSysop. It is appreciated.

I remain suspicious of other plugins or the WP theme. In the original post on this thread it was said that the browsers title appears correct during forum page load but upon completion it is suddenly changed. That still suggests to me a third-party component forcing the SP crafted title construct to be overwritten.

EK Edward Koon
Edward Koon
Member

I think he was confused by the post specific permalink at the slugs end. (that’s all i see different in his first screen shots) This permalink is also shown if using the simplepress post link sidebar widget to access a certain post. Also it is present after composing a post or editing one. 

I have always called it a slug which is appropriate for a WordPress post permalink. Yoast alway says mine is too long and suggests shortening it when writing a blog post. Outside looking at the browser url window it might be called something else. I’m not that into tech stuff other than seo and social media stuff.

I chimed in because getting the seo component settings correct is beneficial to being found on the net. 

Just my two cents worth as usual.. wink

EK Edward Koon
Edward Koon
Member

Let me also say this.

It is an SEO best practice to keep the title line to 60 characters. After much trial and error with simplepress i have found that utilizing that space for post specific info is crucial. In other words.

“SimplePress is the best WordPress forum plugin” rather than “site name > forum name > SimplePress is the best WordPress forum plugin” which truncates the most important part the post title pushing it out of display in search results.

Open graph title and description meta is can be much longer. I’m anxious to fiddle with sp’s updated versions og.

Love this program! kiss   

AC Adam Crase
Adam Crase
Member

Thank you for improving my understanding of what is going on.

I will browse your sites source code as soon as I get a chance to start my VPN. I am receiving a CAPTCHA error (There was an issue communicating with the captcha provider. More information may be available below) and presume this is due to the Great Firewall.

It looks like Open Graph Protocol is going to be utilized by many WP plugins; and probably themes too. Is there an ETA on the SP update?

While everyone is fresh with familiarity from running around inside my source code, and I assume you all run your own WP sites, can I ask a side question… Why are plugins, that are not active on the page, loading their stylesheet and javascript files? 

This is unnecessary loading. All of them are linked to from the main menu but should not load until their own page is called. Is this a WP thing or a WeeklyNews Theme thing? i.e. – should I contact WP support or should I bring this to WeeklyNews?

MP Mr Papa
Mr Papa
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plugins that are not active wont be loading js or css… sounds like a caching issue… 

or do mean that active plugins are loading there cs and js even though they are not used on a specific page?  if so, that would just be down to lazy or poor programming…  its up to the plugin, not wp, to control when their stuff is loaded…  simple press, for example, does not load most of our stuff on non forum pages…

5.5.9 will be out when wp releases 4.3…  tentatively scheduled for tomorrow, but have not heard final confirmation it is ready…

EK Edward Koon
Edward Koon
Member

Hi Adam, sorry for the captcha, forgot you are in China. I set my cloudflare waf to block or challenge China. Had a lot of problems with hackers and content scrapers. 

I’m not up on the technical workings of wordpress. Mr. Papa is the guru in that department. 

Open graph is being adapted by theme authors to support social sharing. My sites depend on yoast seo to generate open graph for posts and pages. The ebms sites theme DaisyChain by a czeck author also generates open graph that had to be disabled to get simplepress set up the way I wanted. 

If you suspect a theme problem best contact the developer. 

Hope you get the kinks ironed out. SimplePress is a mighty fine forum.