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Domochevsky
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Jun 7, 2015 - 5:28 pm

Is this intended behavior? I had 4 guests post now (approved on first post), and they all have the same pink gravatar, which is highly unlikely to occur naturally.

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Yellow Swordfish
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Jun 7, 2015 - 5:59 pm

SP doesn't load gravatars for guests. Only for registered users who have user details stored. And I don't know what the pink one is you refer to of course. What are your forum avatar settings and priorities?

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Jun 7, 2015 - 6:07 pm

Agh... is there a way to change that?

The priorities are:

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We're using WP avatars and gravatars pretty much exclusively, with only staff being registered users. Everyone else is a guest. So being able to let them be individuals, visually speaking, like with regular wordpress comments would be highly desirable.

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Yellow Swordfish
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Jun 7, 2015 - 6:14 pm

So these pink ones are WP derived.
We can't change the use of Gravatars and guests I am afraid. As I say, we have no data regarding guest posters. They can make up any number of email addresses and pose as a different user each time they visit. There is just not enough information to go on.

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Jun 7, 2015 - 6:30 pm

So you cannot use the default wordpress feature to generate gravatars based on their email/name combo? I'm ok with them making addresses and names up as they please. I just want them to look unique when they do it. 🙂

The same name/email combo translating to the same gravatar is perfectly fine.

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Yellow Swordfish
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Jun 7, 2015 - 6:42 pm

Is that what the wp avatar option does? To be honest I have never used it. I will ask my colleague who largely put the SP avatar controls together.

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Domochevsky
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Jun 8, 2015 - 11:44 am

Indeed it is. So what's that colleague's opinion?

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Yellow Swordfish
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Jun 8, 2015 - 12:26 pm

Steve wont be back until late Tuesday so probably not on the forums until Wednesday evening.

But I had a play with all of these settings after your post yesterday and I don't see which one of the WP options is supposed to generate an image based upon email address - although that is still not possible for a guest in any case. 

I tried all of the WP options and they all seemed to give me what I expected. The 'Mystery Man' 'Blank' and 'Gravatar Logo' showed just that. And the others returned some random stuff but clearly from quite a small pool.

It looks to me from my tests that it seems to be working as it should. At least it seems to be working as I expect it to work from the options available.

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Jun 8, 2015 - 1:35 pm

That is pretty odd. The option is under Settings -> Discussion -> Avatars

There set the avatar to a generated one (wavatar for example) and it should work as expected.

The Wavatar randomly generated avatar is the relevant one. It generates based on the guest's email, which is what I want, and yet somehow doesn't work for the forum.

It likely doesn't actually hand the guest's email over to wordpress to fetch an avatar with, if I had to take a guess. So as a result everyone has the same wavatar.

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Yellow Swordfish
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Jun 8, 2015 - 3:41 pm

When I selected 'Wavatar' (for example) this afternoon and looked at guest postings I did not have the same generated image for all the guests. I have no idea why not!

But yes - I have already said, twice now I think, that we do not pass or process an email address for guests. We do not even force a guest to enter an email address - that is an option the admin chooses.

But yes  - we can talk about this here when Steve returns.

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