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what happens ifyou go to forum – options – general settings and turn off the page title generation there?

If you mean forum > options >general display settings > and click on "Remove page title completely", that's what I have already.

what options do you have set on forum – integration – page and permalink for the integration display settings?  might try having display multiple off and display in loop on… and maybe the strict wp api option…

I've tried as you said, and many other combinations, and none worked. I can't remember how it was initially set at this point.

Barring that, would need to get a closer look and do some debugging…

I'm happy to give you an admin account.

BUT...THIS MIGHT BE IMPORTANT: I tried disabling the Yoast SEO plugin and the topic pages then showed the proper browser titles!! The forum display showed just the URL as the title, but at least getting the topic displays working was progress.  So, doesn't that seem like the problem is something with Yoast SEO, not Catalyst?

Okay, I did something radical to move this along. After seeing last night that disabling Yoast's Wordpress SEO plugin caused most things to work right, this morning I used the SEO Data Transporter plugin to move all my Yoast SEO settings to the built-in Catalyst theme SEO settings. Then I disabled Yoast's SEO plugin. Goodbye. Catalyst has great SEO ability so I can live without Yoast if it helps me get SP working right. (I know the Yoast plugin is working for most everyone else, but obviously there is some issue with it for my site.)

SO, now that Yoast is disabled and I am using Catalyst's built-in SEO, it's all working.

I do have one question still:  I have the "page name" showing on all the browser titles (setting on "Include page name in page/browser title").  I would love to NOT have this show on the topic page title. But I don't see a setting for this. I've set ON "Exclude forum name in page/browser title on topic views only" on to remove the forum name from the topic view, but i don't see a way to remove the Page Name from the topic view.  Is there a way to do this? I just want a clean Topic Name for the browser title on a topic view.

If there is no way to do this, may I suggest one more option on the SP SEO page?  Right after "Exclude forum name in page/browser title on topic views only" add "Exclude page name in page/browser title on topic views only." Seems like this would be something others might like too.

As always, thanks for all your help.

Yes, but SEO should really be able to be fine tuned. For example, the reason I want just the topic title only is a) if a title is over 60-72 characters in length, Google can and often doesn't just truncate but now REWRITES your title. So the shorter the better in the first place, and b) My site name is my main keyword (3D printer) and having it on too many pages is not something Google particularly likes, figures I'm stuffing my keyword in all the page titles to game things.  

You said, "best to just use our filter and make it what you want." Can you tell me where I can learn more about that, please? I don't know anything about that. And I really want to get the page name off of my topic view title.

I've got a suggestion for the SEO page that will offer complete flexibility, but I'll wait to see what you say about the filter you spoke of, and then suggest it in the Feature Requests forum.

And yes, I could have stuck with the setup that wasn't working for you to debug, but I figured you were already spending too much time on this already, and I don't want to end up being one of those customers that's always bugging you. I hope to be done with all my newbie questions very, very soon, and then quit bothering you.

Excellent. I'll look into it. Catalyst makes it easy to do hooks and filters -- I've done many hooks, but no filters.  I'll figure it out.  I'm assuming then I can write some PHP if statements that test whether it's a topic view or not and then apply a filter to wp_title.

But would I do the filter where I do hooks and filters in Catalyst, at that level, or do them in one of the SP plugin files?

I'll search to see if there are any examples of filtering wp_title here on the forum.

If things ever get dicey, I can always hire to your create what I need I assume.

Going to switch from my Silver level to Gold today.

Thank you.  Is there any way to create a mod like that and have it survive SP updates? Or would I reapply it every time?