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Sebastian Schimpf
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Apr 25, 2017 - 10:48 pm

Hi there, 

I am confused about a setting in the forum:

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I have activated: Disallow members not logged in to post as guests

And still people can post as guests!

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Any ideas what is going wrong here?

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Sebastian Schimpf
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Apr 26, 2017 - 12:57 am

I feel so desperate about this. 

How can I make sure that people who come to the website cannot post?
The way user groups work is really not clear to me. 
If somebody comes to the website and is not registered, this website visitor is not considered to be a member of any usergroup, right?

So why can they post if all forums are set to not allow guests to post?

This is how it looks like when I visit the website without being logged in:
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Yellow Swordfish
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Apr 26, 2017 - 3:10 am

The option you clicked on specifically states that it is intended to stop 'members' from posting without being logged on. A 'guest' is, by definition, not a 'member'. The popup help on that field will explain more.

To stop unregistered people (guests) from posting, you need to have a 'guests' user group (which can be thought of as a dummy/empty group). One was created at install time so hopefully it still exists.

On each forum where guests are disallowed you then need to set the guests user group to a permission set that disallows posting. Again, one was created at install named 'no access'. 

Finally go to the Permissions section of the forum admin and click on the 'Map users top user groups' option and ensure that the 'guest' user group is mapped to the 'no access' permission set.

It might be worth taking a look at the 'Getting Started' section of our codex (right hand sidebar) which also has more detail on access control.

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Sebastian Schimpf
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Apr 26, 2017 - 8:15 am

Thanks for the hints.

I deleted the guest group previously and re-created it. 

What can I do to make sure it will work as expected? Just following the instructions in the codex?

 

Update: I am facing the issue now that I have a user group "Guest" and users are members of this group. This user group is not part of Wordpress, it seems it only exists in the SP context.

The actual lowest level usergroup for the forum is "Subscriber" which every new registered user on our website is automatically assigned to,

How can I manage to "clear" the usergroup "Guests" to be the default website visitor usergroup?

At least I managed that website visitors cannot post. My issue right now is that I still have users in the "Guest" usergroup where it should actually be just an empty "container" if I understood your explanation correctly. 

Update:
I managed to move all existing user from the group "Guests" to the group "Subscriber", which is now the default usergroup for registered users. For the moment it seems that there is no issue anymore. 
Please let me know if you have any idea about possible issue coming up in the scenario described. 

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Yellow Swordfish
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Apr 26, 2017 - 9:07 am

If your designated user group is mapped to 'guests' - and the permission set it is connected to in each forum does not allow posting then it will work.

It is worth taking a long hard look at the permissions available so that you can tailor them for how you want to use them.

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