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Mr Pappa and Yellow Swordfish
The information displayed on the frontpage of the forum =
There have been 23293 guest posters
There are 1485 members
Under "manage usergroups" - show members - a large number of Guests are shown (in aplhabetical order, I do not know how many)
Under "manage usergroups" - show members - only one member is shown - "admin".
In "users" under wp-admin there are 1487 users as subscribers.
I can see that users here, at least some of them, are "guests" under the Forum "guest" usergroup.
QUESTIONS.
1) does the permission sets of the forum apply to the users listed in wp-admin?
2) If I move guests listed in the forum using "manage usergroups" will they be shown as users under wp-admin.
(if so then one can use the wp-plugin "email users" to communicate with users regarding whatever.)
3) Can a "guest"upgrade to a member, and how.
4 should I move the "Guests" and give them member status - would like to email all of them to encourage them to become members - is that possible - the sending of email.
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Charles van Eeden
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not sure I understand... so wp counts users in the wp_users table... the sp users are counted by the users in the wp_sfmembers table... they should be the same...
so permissions apply to all users... but will be explicit to users in the sfmembers table...
guests listed in the forum??? what does that mean? do you mean you have some users in the default guests usergroup? that is fine... may not make sense at first glance, but all it really says is that the users listed in the usergroup will get the same permissions as guests...
some terminology... guests are visitors to your site that are not logged in... if they log in, they are the user they logged in as... if they log out, they are again a guest (though we may detect a cookie and prevent posting if your options are such)...
so are you asking that if someone posted as a guest, then registered and became a user, are you asking can you reassign their guest posts to their user account? the answer would be yes, but its on a post by post basis... with the forum tools you can reassign a post to anyone... you could also come up with a db query to do it, but their is no api or ui for mass changing... though I think we do have a ticket for some point to do such a thing...
keep in mind, you wont see 'guests' anywhere in the wp or sp admin areas... but when they posted, they did leave their email if you required it, so you could email them... but not en masse...
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Thanks for the answer, Mr Pappa,
My terminology perhaps suspect.
Lets try again.
In wp-admin users I have 1400+ registered members
In SP under Manage user groups, show hide members under "members"it shows there is only 1 member
, - now your words:
"the sp users are counted by the users in the wp_sfmembers table… they should be the same…" BUT THEY are not.?
In SP under Manage user groups, user group "members" there is a function "add members"
It shows eligible users - and the list of eligible members is the same as (at least for the first 20 I looked at) which is shown under:
SP - Manage user groups, user group "guests", when I use the show/problem-with-post-edit-buttonide button.
Therefor, in the light of the above, what would be the effect be if I move the eligible members per the eligible member listto SP members using the mentioned function "add members"?
Would it affect their Topics and Posts?
Could you please put on wish list a plugin to email members and guests - I would like to email them to entice them to use forum regularly - and to give newsflash to bug them to pay return visists
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Charles van Eeden
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This is most likely an artifact of all the problems and reinstalling that went on to get your site upgraded.
Moving members from one user group to another will not widow them from their posts.
An interesting question would be - how many members do you have in the database itself in the sfmembers table?
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Good evening Yellow Swordfish,
how many members do you have in the database itself in the sfmembers table?
the count is 1487
NOW
If I should move the eligible members in SP from Guests to Member, will I duplicate the members in the WP members list???
(In SP under Manage user groups, user group "members" there is a function "add members"
It shows eligible users – and the list of eligible members is the same as (at least for the first 20 I looked at) which is shown under)
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Charles van Eeden
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No... being in a usergroup has nothing to do with sfmembers table... at least in the way you are thinking... if a user is not in sfmembers, they wont show up in any usergroups...
so just the fact they show up in add, means they are in sfmembers...
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Is it possible to switch off the statistics and stuff on the bottom of the page and just leave the login part when strangers come to the site (guests?). My site is set up as a members only site and I don't need people to see the names of the contributors etc at the bottom of the page if they are not logged in.
I've turned all the stats off at the moment but then nobody can see them.
What I would really like is that only the login section would appear for non-members. Is there any way this can be set up? I've been through all the settings and turned everything off for guests to no avail. I tried using WP-Members to block the page but there seems some kind of conflict and it is not really the way to go I feel.
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I was all set to answer this (and wishing this were a new topic and not an unrelated question to an existing one) when I realised you had said 'I have turned off all the stats'. Does this mean that you are not, in fact, using V5 (which this forum is for)?
If it IS V5 then it is a fairly simple edit to the template but if V4 then I am afraid it would require some extensive core code edits.
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Yes it is certainly version 5 - only recently installed and run the update today.
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OK then this is just the wrong forum...
V5 is template driven. As we don't have the documentation in place yet I will try and help...
In your V5 theme folder in the 'templates' folder are head and foot templates. If you take a look at one you should be able to easily trace the flow of the actual display. It is a lot easier than it might look.
If there is a section you want to hide from visitors who have not logged in then you can wrap the appropriate sections as follows:
if ( $spThisUser->member ) {
... enslosing section
}Note that you must really do this for whole sections and make sure you remember the closing brace after the section you want to hide.
As always before making changes to a theme we recommend you make your own theme (from a copy) to prevebt it being updated. We will have a tutorial on how to do that on the new codex shortly but it is very simply done.
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