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bluantinoo
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May 29, 2012 - 2:29 pm

Hi all,

I just need to ask some newbie questions about the admin bar

1) who can see and use this bar?

2) how can I let other users (amins? moderators?) to have this bar?

3) what is the "admin postbag" adn what's for the first button on the left of the admin bar?

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Mr Papa
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May 29, 2012 - 2:42 pm

Admins and moderators can see the admin bar...  but they have to choose to view it... each admin or moderator can go to forum - admins - your admin options and turn on the admin bar...

the admins post bag is the collection of posts waiting on admin/moderator action...  could be:

1)  posts in moderation

2)  posts marked as spam

3)  new posts on the site that have not been responded to by an admin or moderator

sorry, first button on left?  not sure what you mean?  the one that says 'view new posts'?  it opens the admin postbag so the posts can be acted on...

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May 29, 2012 - 3:26 pm

thank you Mr. Papa

 

As I will not allow moderators to visit wp-admin, is it possibile to turn on by default to every admin and moderators the "show admin bar" option?

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Mr Papa
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May 29, 2012 - 3:29 pm

No, they need to do it themselves...  we do have an open ticket to consider allowing admins to set other admins/moderators options but no ETA...

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May 29, 2012 - 3:32 pm

ok, thanks 🙂

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Yellow Swordfish
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May 29, 2012 - 3:59 pm

Remember that if you have not granted them the capability to use other or all the Sp admin sections then the 'Your Admin Options panel will be the only one they can access.

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bluantinoo
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May 29, 2012 - 4:08 pm

Thanks for the details Swordfish.

but the problem is that in that site I'm heavily using Theme My Login Plugin, and I do not allow any users but Admins and Editors to see the backend. They are just redirected on front end if they go for any wp-admin url.

BUt actually I'll have some forum moderators that will not be Admins or Editors... so I was looking for a way to turn it on in a centralized way... even if means adding manually the option in the db. about that... do you know where that option is stored in db?

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bluantinoo
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May 29, 2012 - 4:21 pm

I found it and I've been able to edit the options in the db.

let me paste it here so it may be useful to someone in the same situation.

the field to modify in the database is admin_options in the wp_sfmembers table

this was the original data of an admin that has never set the "My admin options"

a:3:{s:8:"sfnotify";b:0;s:15:"sfstatusmsgtext";s:0:"";s:6:"colors";a:18:{s:8:"submitbg";s:6:"27537A";s:9:"submitbgt";s:6:"FFFFFF";s:6:"bbarbg";s:6:"0066CC";s:7:"bbarbgt";s:6:"FFFFFF";s:6:"formbg";s:6:"0066CC";s:7:"formbgt";s:6:"FFFFFF";s:7:"panelbg";s:6:"78A1FF";s:8:"panelbgt";s:6:"000000";s:10:"panelsubbg";s:6:"A7C1FF";s:11:"panelsubbgt";s:6:"000000";s:11:"formtabhead";s:6:"464646";s:12:"formtabheadt";s:6:"D7D7D7";s:7:"tabhead";s:6:"0066CC";s:8:"tabheadt";s:6:"D7D7D7";s:10:"tabrowmain";s:6:"EAF3FA";s:11:"tabrowmaint";s:6:"000000";s:9:"tabrowsub";s:6:"78A1FF";s:10:"tabrowsubt";s:6:"000000";}}

and this is how I've change it enabling the admin bar for this user (edits in bold red):

a:4:{s:8:"sfnotify";b:0;s:15:"sfstatusmsgtext";s:0:"";s:6:"colors";a:18:{s:8:"submitbg";s:6:"27537A";s:9:"submitbgt";s:6:"FFFFFF";s:6:"bbarbg";s:6:"0066CC";s:7:"bbarbgt";s:6:"FFFFFF";s:6:"formbg";s:6:"0066CC";s:7:"formbgt";s:6:"FFFFFF";s:7:"panelbg";s:6:"78A1FF";s:8:"panelbgt";s:6:"000000";s:10:"panelsubbg";s:6:"A7C1FF";s:11:"panelsubbgt";s:6:"000000";s:11:"formtabhead";s:6:"464646";s:12:"formtabheadt";s:6:"D7D7D7";s:7:"tabhead";s:6:"0066CC";s:8:"tabheadt";s:6:"D7D7D7";s:10:"tabrowmain";s:6:"EAF3FA";s:11:"tabrowmaint";s:6:"000000";s:9:"tabrowsub";s:6:"78A1FF";s:10:"tabrowsubt";s:6:"000000";}s:10:"sfadminbar";b:1;}

is it ok?

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Mr Papa
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May 29, 2012 - 4:35 pm

yes, that is indeed where and how...  most users run and hide when it comes to serialized arrays so good for you!

couple questions though...

why trust admins and mods with your forums, but not in the wp admin area when they would only be able to get at the forum stuff anyways?

and what is the point of making new admins (vs moderators) if they cant get to the stuff to admin? 

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May 29, 2012 - 5:24 pm

You are actually right, speaking like that it seems that I have some inconsistency on wp and sp roles.

Actually my problems are based on the very fundamental of that website. As it has been built upon wp roles improperly. 

It's a sort of directory where users has been classified using Wp roles instead of something other (like a category)

So even if I have a user that I trust deeply, I cannot make him admin, because his user must have another role (such as "honorable member") to be in the directory and be represented for who he really is.

At the same time I cannot give wp capabilities to that role, because I will have other members that must have the same role (because they are as well "honorable members").

So actually I will not have any public admin for the forum, but just moderators. All admins will be "grey" accounts.

And speaking more generally, sometimes I do not want users to go backend for a simple "style" reason:

I think it's totally unelegant to have some option in a totally different interface with a totally different look and feel.
If going in the backend is normal for an administrator or an editor (that actually spend more time in backend than in frontend) someone that wants just manage forum posts or moderate them should not see the backend at all.

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