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I have cForms2 in use with the latest version, which is still in the WP directory and is said to be comptible to WP 4.3.1

https://wordpress.org/plugins/cforms2/

You confuse me.

Your question in the other topic about TinyMCE was:

In fact – did I not notice that you were using cForms and does that not add a new button to the tinyMCE editor? if so that may be the problem as Oliver stopped updating and supporting cforms quite a while back.

Later here in the thread you repeated:

It would be nice to have a simple answer on the cForms question though as I am sure I remember that it does add a button and very sure it is now unsupported.

And my answer is above. I see no other question about cforms in this thread. And I have no idea, whether cforms adds a button to the editor or not - I never cared and never used tinyMCE as far as I know.

I personally am happy with bbcode editors, but for the introduction of the new forum, I wanted to provide my members something else to choose.

So what exactly do you want to know? And why?

I understood from your reaction above in both threads, that you are not going to pursue an investigation on the subject of the tinyMCE and this Linking Incompatibility and the burden to check for it, is on my side. This is unfortunate, as I am the one seeking support here and not the other way around, but it is acceptable to me.

Interface problems between different plugins are a difficult subject in terms of responsibilities. If everyone would just hide behind the borders of its own code, incompatibilities would never be solved. But if everyone easily makes the problems of others its own, this would be exploitet and will not work either.

So a sort of middle ground seems necessary on those issues, otherwise open plugin systems as wordpress, would not work. The definition of standards is a fine thing, but in every software reality I saw in more than 30 years since my first TRS-80 L2 in the pre-PC-aera, standards are not enough to prevent every incompatibility.

So  I am puzzled now. Please explain yourself:

What exactly are you planning or not planning to investigate on this different subjects of incompatibilities? And depending on that answer, what are you asking me to do or to explain?

As I said, I fully except that you want to stay away from this incompatibities, until I have provided more detail on the possible cause. And I said, I will not pursue this in the near future due to lack of priority. But then, what is your question?

PS: btw on the performance lag incompatibilty. The folks from wpSEO agreed to install simple:press and will test, if they can isolate the cause of the incompatibility. Although they have no obligation to do that. Thats admirable. But I cant expect it. I simply accept that.

Thanks, communication just via text is always difficult and subject to human missunderstandings and "between the line" reading. If two different native languages are involved, the more. 😉

I have no idea why you concluded this. Nobody here has said such a thing. I think there IS a burden to check things that we are unable to check however.

OK, missunderstanding One. Yes I concluded that from your reactions. I am happy to hear, that I was wrong. If such interface problems are to be solved, we must work together. You cant make progress without information from me and I cant make progress without your insights because its your software.

Ah – there you go. I too started life with a TRS-80. A great machine.

Yessss! Remember Zork or the Scott Adams Adventures? God ol times :))

TinyMCE: Question 1 is – do you have any active plugins that add components to the editor and if so does the problem resolve itself if you deactivate them. Starting with cForms. If none of them do then the next stage would be to look at the JavaScript web console at load times & when the editor s actually opened to see if there are any TinyMCE JS errors raised.

Frankly, I have no idea. I run wordpress not from a developer perspective, but as "dumb" user. And I try to stay as dumb and "standard" as the system allows, because I am not in the development business any more and life is simply too short.

Sure I would have fun diging into all this, but I have to focus, time is ticking unfortunately. That is the reason too, why I refrain from digging into how to customize simple:press. I could do that, but i need to focus. Focus Hari - Focus! :))

As I as "dumb user" dont know, what the original components of TinyMCE have been - I never ever liked wysiwig editors - I would not even recognize, if some plugin adds some. So as far as cformsII is concerned, I can not add anything, that you couldnt research for your self.

What I will do for both problems, is the classic "deactivate plugin step by step approach". But that needs a few days, until I find time. I will report then.

Blog Linking: The question was – might S2 member (which I have no working knowledge of) be blocking the reading of the WordPress post record by the forum code.

A definite answer could only give S2 development, but from my understanding of what they are doing - yes, this seems quite possible. In fact I have the forum page under S2 member lock. What I will test - in a few days see above - is, if the behaviour of blog linking changes without this lock. I will report too then.

That;s good of them and if they need any advice or help from us we will gladly give it. I downloaded and installed the theme you are using and that security plugin as well. I did NOT install the wpseo plugin as we all believed that this was ‘WP SEO’ which we know gives no such problem running alongside SP.

Fine! What E-Mail should I give them to contact you, if they have questions?

I took some time on the blog linking problem and I guess, I could narrow down the problem.

First, S2 Members does not seem to be involved in the problem. I removed the page lock from the blog post involved and tried again - same error message as above.

My option in the admin panel was all the time: "WP post excerpt field", because I dont want to copy content to the forum, I even dont want an excerpt.

Just  for testing I changed to: "Excerpt from post content" and to my surpise it worked like a charm. Even with S2 Members page restriction.

So now its your part again.

The problem and above error message is related to the "WP post excerpt field" option only. It is not a general problem of the blog linking plugin.

What I am looking for is simple, but important to me: I want two permanent links linking to each other více versa - and no copied content, not even an excerpt. One link from the blog post to the forum topic. And one link from the forum to the blog post. Thats it.

How do I get this accomplished?

Ah shit.... this is the added complexity of a different language.

I understood/expected something different under the "WP post excerpt field" term and I always have to guess how to translate such hints from english, as I run wordpress in german and therefore cant see the english term for all the options. I dont even have this concrete field activated in my wp editor environment, cause I never use it.

And as there was no further explanation about that option in your admin panel, I assumed something under this term, that was obviously a wrong assumption.

After your comment, I googled for it and checked my "WP Screen Options" in the editor at the top, whether there is a "excerpt field" to checkmark or whatever the german translation will be.

Funny thing is: I found none. lol. Who ever did it, "someone" stole my excerpt field and I never recognized that, as I never used it.

And I cant recognize a field to be empty on your question, that I neither see, nor know that it exists. 😉

Case closed. User error. lol 🙂

But I am still wondering, where my excerpt field is gone. Now that I know there should be one....

PS:

btw, is there a way to set the number of words in the excerpt to zero? I tried, but this seems to result in a standard length instead of zero. A small number works, but not zero in my environment.