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Damian Dodd
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Jul 18, 2013 - 11:37 pm

Just installed SimplePress today and bought into support. After downloading and playing with many of the plugins here are the errors so far, which I can't say I'm too happy about, given I just paid for them.

Watches
You can watch a topic but it doesn't add it to the Watches button up top in
user info, nor does clicking that button do anything.

Admin Bar
Activating the Admin Bar plug disables the ability to make a new topic.

Language & Theme Selection
I logged out after activating this. You can change theme color but I never saw a place to change language.

Uploads Viewer
None of the uploads viewer buttons worked after activation.

If you're curious my forum is at http://dslrnerd.com/forum. I'll make a dev an admin to my site if necessary.

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Mr Papa
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Jul 19, 2013 - 1:10 am

watches... that is not a count of watches... it is a count of new, unread topics you are watching...  more on the plugin:  http://codex.simple-press.com/.....s/watches/

languages... did you actually download from our http://glotpress.simple-press.com any of the language translations to use????    more on the plugin:  http://codex.simple-press.com/.....-selector/

admin bar... please explain what you mean?  who cannot create a topic?  its probably because your site is throwing numerous js errors...  A quick look and I would guess its because you have a theme and  plugins, violating the wp standards and api... they are loading their own versions of jquery  and jquery ui... see: http://codex.simple-press.com/.....-conflict/

the theme apollo is loading its own jquery ui instead of the version that comes with wp...  bad news... this:

<script type='text/javascript' src='http://dslrnerd.com/wp-content/themes/apollo/js/jquery-ui.js?ver=1.2.1'></script>

and its a bit outdated...

additionally, you have a plugin, ajax search, loading its own version of jquery ui too...  this:

<script type='text/javascript' src='http://dslrnerd.com/wp-content/plugins/ajax-search-pro/js/nomin/jquery.ui.js?ver=3.5.2'></script>

and its a different version than the other one... sure fire problems... really frustrating when wp themes and plugins skirt around the api...

and finally, you are serving cached forum pages... another major problem for js...  this:

<!-- This Quick Cache file was built for (  dslrnerd.com/forum/ ) in 1.36916 seconds, on Jul 19th, 2013 at 12:03 am CDT. -->
<!-- This Quick Cache file will automatically expire ( and be re-built automatically ) on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:03 am CDT -->
<!-- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -->
<!-- Quick Cache Is Fully Functional :-) ... A Quick Cache file was just served for (  dslrnerd.com/forum/ ) in 0.00256 seconds, on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:03 am UTC. -->

All of the forum content displays on a single wp page... therefore its dynamic (with internal caching) and you cannot cache it... you must tell the caching plugins to not cache the wp page you have the forum on...

 

 

 

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Damian Dodd
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Jul 19, 2013 - 1:57 am

Hey thanks for getting back to me quickly.

Mr Papa said
watches... that is not a count of watches... it is a count of new, unread topics you are watching...  more on the plugin:  http://codex.simple-press.com/.....s/watches/

Ok I'll check this out.

languages... did you actually download from our http://glotpress.simple-press.com any of the language translations to use????    more on the plugin:  http://codex.simple-press.com/.....-selector/

I didn't download any yet no. Do I actually need this plugin, wouldn't people using a browser in another language automatically translate the forums?

admin bar... please explain what you mean?  who cannot create a topic?  its probably because your site is throwing numerous js errors...  A quick look and I would guess its because you have a theme and  plugins, violating the wp standards and api... they are loading their own versions of jquery  and jquery ui... see: http://codex.simple-press.com/.....-conflict/

the theme apollo is loading its own jquery ui instead of the version that comes with wp...  bad news... this:

<script type='text/javascript' src='http://dslrnerd.com/wp-content/themes/apollo/js/jquery-ui.js?ver=1.2.1'></script>

and its a bit outdated...

additionally, you have a plugin, ajax search, loading its own version of jquery ui too...  this:

<script type='text/javascript' src='http://dslrnerd.com/wp-content/plugins/ajax-search-pro/js/nomin/jquery.ui.js?ver=3.5.2'></script>

and its a different version than the other one... sure fire problems... really frustrating when wp themes and plugins skirt around the api...

and finally, you are serving cached forum pages... another major problem for js...  this:

<!-- This Quick Cache file was built for (  dslrnerd.com/forum/ ) in 1.36916 seconds, on Jul 19th, 2013 at 12:03 am CDT. -->
<!-- This Quick Cache file will automatically expire ( and be re-built automatically ) on Jul 19th, 2013 at 1:03 am CDT -->
<!-- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -->
<!-- Quick Cache Is Fully Functional :-) ... A Quick Cache file was just served for (  dslrnerd.com/forum/ ) in 0.00256 seconds, on Jul 19th, 2013 at 5:03 am UTC. -->

All of the forum content displays on a single wp page... therefore its dynamic (with internal caching) and you cannot cache it... you must tell the caching plugins to not cache the wp page you have the forum on...

 

 

Ah ok I didn't realize it was me with the JS errors. I'll try and correct them. Thanks!

 

 

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Jul 19, 2013 - 2:21 am

Ok I dumped Ajax Search (darn, paid for that one). I can't do much about Apollo's own JS. 

I'll try and find a different Cache plugin that lets me easily select what pages not to cache (If I have to start modifying php files my brain glazes over).

If you have a suggestion for one I'd appreciate it. 

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Yellow Swordfish
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Jul 19, 2013 - 6:42 am

Languages: No - I have never heard of browsers automatically translating pages as such.

Caching: The main WP caching plugins - like WP-Cache and WP Total Cache - allow you to exclude a page by the page slug which is ideal.

A theme loading it's own jQuery and/or jQuery UI library components - especially if it is an older version than is needed - WILL cause all kinds of issues for Simple:Press and for any WP plugin that uses those libraries and follows the WP API.

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Damian Dodd
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Jul 19, 2013 - 4:22 pm

Ok another question. When I use the Insert/edit image button (assuming TinyMCE gives me the toolbar) it inserts a thumbnail, but when I click on it to enlarge nothing happens. Assuming that's my Java errors. But is there a way to insert pics to the size I did specify without the thumbnail?

Also I installed W3 Super Cache, not seeing where to disable caching for Forum.

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Jul 19, 2013 - 4:46 pm

Damian Dodd said
Ok another question. When I use the Insert/edit image button (assuming TinyMCE gives me the toolbar) it inserts a thumbnail, but when I click on it to enlarge nothing happens. Assuming that's my Java errors. But is there a way to insert pics to the size I did specify without the thumbnail?

Also I installed W3 Total Cache, not seeing where to disable caching for Forum.

 

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Damian Dodd
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Jul 19, 2013 - 4:50 pm

Like is it under Purge Policy:Page Cache? that I add the forum under "Additional Pages"?

I'm not seeing anything like "Never Cache the Following Pages _______"

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Jul 19, 2013 - 4:55 pm

Great, now my forum is broken and won't load because I'd entered it in Additional pages Purge Policy:page cache.

[edit]

Fixed with a database restore, going to try WP Supercache instead, reading it's better.

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Ok with WP Supercache, in Advanced tab, down where it says "Add here strings (not a filename) that forces a page not to be cached." I added /forum

Hope this is what I was to do. Anyone using SimplePress and WP Supercache could confirm?

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Mr Papa
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Jul 19, 2013 - 6:03 pm

I think that is the one...  if your wp page the forum is on is called 'forum, you would enter /forum/ into that field...

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