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Admin doesn't have private messaging capability
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Emma Fletcher
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Oct 9, 2012 - 1:38 pm

Hi,

Cant assign simple press Admins to a user group and therefore the Private Messaging functionality is not available to admins.
In the Permissions, I have selected "Can use the private messaging system" for Standrad access, Full access and Moderator access. When I Go to manage user groups, All the standard users can be mapped, but the admins aren't in the list to map them.

Am I missing something ?

Also - same problem with the "View Online Activity" link - not available for Admins ?

Many Thanks

Emma

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Mr Papa
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Oct 9, 2012 - 2:28 pm

Correct, admins do not belong to a usergroup. They do not to either. Admins automatically are granted all possible permissions. So they will be able to pm.

Just to check, but be careful not to confuse wp admins from SP admins. WP admins are not SP admins by default. This allows any wp user to be an sp admin but not have to be a wp admin. You control sp admins on forum - admins - manage admins.

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Emma Fletcher
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Oct 9, 2012 - 2:48 pm

admin_prob1.jpgImage Enlargeradmin_prob.jpgImage EnlargerThanks for you quick reply.  I understand this, and I have 3 SP admins, one of which is a wp admin.  See attached - still no PM buttons !

Any Ideas ?

Thanks

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Mr Papa
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Oct 9, 2012 - 3:08 pm

What PM buttons are missing?

Try going to forum - toolbox - housekeeping and resetting the auths cache. See if that clears it up.

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Emma Fletcher
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Oct 9, 2012 - 3:41 pm

Hi,

The buttons that are missing for example - the Inbox button on profile, the PM button on the post to pm the poster.  They are present  for standard registered users, but none of the admins.  I cleared the auth cache - it hasn't made a difference.

Many Thanks

Emma

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Emma Fletcher
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Oct 9, 2012 - 3:58 pm

simran_pm_stats.pngImage EnlargerThe Member PM stats shows that they dont have PM set - Can PM = No

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Mr Papa
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Oct 9, 2012 - 9:23 pm

quite odd...  so lets look at some db data...

in the sfmembers table, for those users you think are admins (as shown on the admin panel), is the admin column set to 1 or 0?

and in the wp usermeta table, for these users, what is the wp_capabilities (your prefix might be other than wp_) set to for these users? do they have sp manage capabilities listed (see what yours looks like)...

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Emma Fletcher
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Oct 10, 2012 - 4:13 am

sfmembers table the admin column is set to 1

userid=1 : a:12:{s:13:"administrator";s:1:"1";s:18:"SPF Manage Options";s:1:"1";s:17:"SPF Manage Forums";s:1:"1";s:22:"SPF Manage User Groups";s:1:"1";s:22:"SPF Manage Permissions";s:1:"1";s:21:"SPF Manage Components";s:1:"1";s:17:"SPF Manage Admins";s:1:"1";s:16:"SPF Manage Users";s:1:"1";s:19:"SPF Manage Profiles";s:1:"1";s:18:"SPF Manage Toolbox";s:1:"1";s:18:"SPF Manage Plugins";s:1:"1";s:17:"SPF Manage Themes";s:1:"1";}

 

userod=2 : a:11:{s:18:"SPF Manage Options";s:1:"1";s:17:"SPF Manage Forums";s:1:"1";s:22:"SPF Manage User Groups";s:1:"1";s:22:"SPF Manage Permissions";s:1:"1";s:21:"SPF Manage Components";s:1:"1";s:16:"SPF Manage Users";s:1:"1";s:19:"SPF Manage Profiles";s:1:"1";s:17:"SPF Manage Admins";s:1:"1";s:18:"SPF Manage Toolbox";s:1:"1";s:18:"SPF Manage Plugins";s:1:"1";s:6:"author";s:1:"1";}

 

userid=3 : a:10:{s:6:"editor";s:1:"1";s:18:"SPF Manage Options";s:1:"1";s:17:"SPF Manage Forums";s:1:"1";s:22:"SPF Manage User Groups";s:1:"1";s:22:"SPF Manage Permissions";s:1:"1";s:21:"SPF Manage Components";s:1:"1";s:16:"SPF Manage Users";s:1:"1";s:19:"SPF Manage Profiles";s:1:"1";s:17:"SPF Manage Admins";s:1:"1";s:18:"SPF Manage Toolbox";s:1:"1";}

Thanks very much for your help !

Emma

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Mr Papa
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Oct 10, 2012 - 8:02 am

so they are definitely admins...

in the sfmembers table, be worth looking at their auths column...  will be rather large, so just pick one...

stepping back, no caching plugins running, right? cause you cannot cache the forum page...

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Emma Fletcher
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Oct 10, 2012 - 8:13 am

No caching plugind installed !

Auth column for userid -1

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