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Recommend we "cease & desist" at this stage, given the number of challenges. We need to step back an evaluate options, including a return to BBPress & BuddyPress (our them was packaged with them). Although we thought SimplePress was much cleaner & more User Friendly, we can't afford to invest more time in "making it work" nor risk Forum impact with ongoing issues.
Thank you all for dedicating weekend time to explore resolutions.
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@mr-papa just had to leave for a short while but it will be short. He may still want to comment on the server. Nginx is definitely involved on your server somwehere along with cloudflare as we were looking at the http response codes. But he is more server savvy than I am.
Curiously this is not actually a big issue.
If you load, say, the Components admin menu from the WP menu the processes all work. The browser button works and the smileys (the only file showing on the list) also drags OK. On a secondary load it stops. This is simply because your site is not allowing the AJAX calls to function. In short, in some way, your server is disallowing the AJAX. That should be a simple thing to put right but it is a server side/configuration issue that is stopping it.
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I suppose our challenge is simplicity. Our Site has been working flawlessly with all existing plugins for many months. We expected the SimplePress Plug-in to also work seamlessly and flawlessly "out-of-the box. And were we to mover forward with any changes in configurations/processes, we run the risk of causing issues with other plugins that are all fine at present. We simply don't have the time/resources and can't run the risk of more bumps in the road going forward.
OK to cease & desist at this stage, while allowing the opportunity to now revisit BBPress/BuddyPress and other alternatives.
Your combined effort has been much appreciated.
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Mr Papa said
there is something odd going on at the server level.. many XMLHttpRequests are not being honored or blocked... sometimes they go through...are you running any server security software? such as mod_security or Sucuri or other?
did you do any modifications to the .htaccess file? (is it used in nginx?)
do you run any wp specific nginx configurations? like in /etc/nginx/common
Wonder if we pull in @fidosysop-2 who runs cloudflare and has it working... not sure if he has nginx though...
probably clear to put plugins and themes back up... clearly no impact from them...
one thing that I would also like to try, but probably not an issue is to turn off admin script concatenation... that would be to add following to the wp config file:
define(‘CONCATENATE_SCRIPTS’, false);
and just see...
Running under cloudflare can be challenging. Do you have a free or paid plan? My two sites are running a pro act. It gives better control over blocking / allowing requests, and has a nice firewall.
I suggest turning off mod security on your server. Let cloudflare provide the security.
RocketLoader is causing lots of your admin errors. Dragging forums into order, smiley reordering, and getting a white screen after making changes in the admin panel.
Also disable combined caching when using cf minimification.
Create a page rule that disables RocketLoader for the forum page. This is best for front-end operations. Best bet when working in simplepress admin is to disable RocketLoader or put your site in development mode. When you are done be sure to dump the cache in cloudflare.
Regards, Ed
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Appreciate your further inputs here.
Some Final thoughts:
- Our Cloudflare Plan is free and has served us well.
- Per our Server Admin, Disabling mod_security is a no-go because the site is under constant attack. Example in the time you worked on the site, there were 27 exploit attempts (uploading PHP exploit) that were all blocked.
- As we mentioned above, our challenge is one of maintaining existing simplicity. Our Site has been working flawlessly with all existing plugins for many months. We expected the SimplePress Plug-in to also work seamlessly and flawlessly “out-of-the box. And were we to mover forward with any changes in existing configurations/processes or, we run the risk of causing issues with other plugins that are all fine at present or new I suppose our challenge is simplicity. Our Site has been working flawlessly with all existing plugins for many months. We expected the SimplePress Plug-in to also work seamlessly and flawlessly “out-of-the box. And were we to mover forward with any changes in configurations/processes, we run the risk of causing issues with other plugins that are all fine at present. We simply don’t have the time/resources and can’t run the risk of more bumps in the road going forward.. We simply don’t have the time/resources and can’t run the risk of more bumps in the road going forward.
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Mr Papa said
Thanks Doc!
Glad to be of assistance.
Personally I will never go back to site hosting without cloudflare handling the dns. RocketLoader is a huge performance boost but it is challenging. They are working on a replacement for it.
Http/2 server push is another great feature of cloudflare, but my server whm does not support it yet in easy apache. That will really open the flood gates when it's active.
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Dennis Pitocco said
Appreciate your further inputs here.Some Final thoughts:
- Our Cloudflare Plan is free and has served us well.
- Per our Server Admin, Disabling mod_security is a no-go because the site is under constant attack. Example in the time you worked on the site, there were 27 exploit attempts (uploading PHP exploit) that were all blocked.
- As we mentioned above, our challenge is one of maintaining existing simplicity. Our Site has been working flawlessly with all existing plugins for many months. We expected the SimplePress Plug-in to also work seamlessly and flawlessly “out-of-the box. And were we to mover forward with any changes in existing configurations/processes or, we run the risk of causing issues with other plugins that are all fine at present or new I suppose our challenge is simplicity. Our Site has been working flawlessly with all existing plugins for many months. We expected the SimplePress Plug-in to also work seamlessly and flawlessly “out-of-the box. And were we to mover forward with any changes in configurations/processes, we run the risk of causing issues with other plugins that are all fine at present. We simply don’t have the time/resources and can’t run the risk of more bumps in the road going forward.. We simply don’t have the time/resources and can’t run the risk of more bumps in the road going forward.
SimplePress works fantastic out of the box on a standard php wordpress environment. Putting cloudflare in front of your server / hosting account requires fine tuning.
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Thanks again Doc - we really do appreciate the advice and assistance. Seems like they plan to go with bbPress instead.
My last thought is that if they don't sort out their httpXMLRequest and get it working properly then their problems are going to get more frequent with future plugins. But they have made the call and I wish them well.
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Please understand that prior to testing SimplePress, we had BBPress (and Buddypress) up & running and fully-functional within our current configurations, cloudflare included. Our plan to now go an alternative route is a very reluctant one, as we selected SimplePress as a better BBPress alternative based on features, functions, simplicity, support etc.
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